New Bike Lanes on Hoover!!

They’re so shiny!

Bike Lane on Hoover near 120th

Bike Lane on Hoover near 120th. A thing of beauty.

Nothing makes us happier than being able to announce brand new bike lanes on Hoover Street from 120th Street to 98th Street!

This is a good little stretch providing close to 2 miles of bikes lanes (if you want to be technical it is 1.64 miles of bikes lanes; really precisely, 8,670 feet of bike lanes).  The new bikes lanes provide a great connection to two Metro Green Line stations: Vermont Station at Vermont and the 105, and Harbor Freeway Station at the 105 and 110 interchange.

Start of Hoover

One end of the lane

Bike Lanes on Hoover

Love that fresh paint.

These bike lanes were installed in tandem with a measure designed to make Hoover safer for bicyclists: a road diet.  From 98th down to 120th, Hoover has been reduced from a 4 lane roadway to a 2 lane road with a median turning lane.  Compare this pre-bike lane google maps image of Hoover with what it looks like today.  The amount of traffic on Hoover didn’t justify having 4 lanes, and we could slim Hoover down to 2 lanes without effecting the street’s Level of Service (LOS).  The stretch of Hoover from 98th to 120th is almost entirely residential, and the types of speeds that a 4 lane road encourages can often be unsafe.  Hoover is a 2 lane road below 120th , so we look at this road diet as simply providing the same level of traffic safety above 120th as is enjoyed below.  By putting Hoover on a road diet, we’ve created room for bike lanes, encouraged cars to drive more slowly, and made Hoover safer for pedestrians, cyclists, and drivers alike.

Median at Hoover and Century

4 lanes become 2!

Unfortunately, the new Hoover bike lanes are supposed to connect at their other end with existing bike lanes along 98th street.  I say “unfortunately” because there aren’t any bike lanes there anymore.  The signs are there, but the lane paint has worn away over time.  Our first priority after completing the installation along Hoover is to line up a contractor to repaint the lanes along 98th.  Every extra mile of bike lane is a battle to get installed and we aren’t going to give up on lanes that we already have.

98th Street Bike Lane Sign

98th st. We've got some work to do.

(Ed. Note: Joe Linton did a great post on the Hoover Bike Lanes at almost the same time we did.  Here’s his take on it.)

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  1. Joe Linton
    Joe Linton says:

    Your article looks pretty similar to the one published at the eco-village the day before: http://laecovillage.wordpress.com/2010/04/11/some-good-bicycle-news-from-south-los-angeles/
    (right down to the missing bike lane shot on 98th) DOT is going to have to write faster if you’re hoping to break news before cyclists do.

    It’s good news and thanks to LADOT for fixing these… it’s still unclear to me why they weren’t striped like this when this street was repaved last year… and why LADOT adds some unplanned lanes and not others (like on 8th Street)

    And what’s the “curb zone” that still coming there -according to Paul Meskin’s BAC report?

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    • ladotbikeblog
      ladotbikeblog says:

      Thanks for the heads-up, Joe. I was unaware of eco-village’s post on the matter, but they’re definitely on my RSS feed now. What can I say, it’s a case of convergent evolution? I’m only in the DOT offices twice a week, so it sometimes takes a bit of turnaround to get these posts published.

      I’d be happy to do more back story on the Hoover bike lanes, if you like.

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      • Joe Linton
        Joe Linton says:

        I meant to mention that I think you have a grammatical error, too: “effecting the street’s [LOS]” should probably be “affecting the street’s [LOS]”

        Regarding the road diet: You state that it was done in tandem with the bike lanes, but the road diet was done last year, and the bike lanes were done in March.

        (Also, not a big deal and I am not 100% sure of this, but I think the road diet wasn’t from 98th to 120th, as you state, but I think that the road diet is a two blocks short of that – just from Century to 120th… but that’s my guess – maybe you have DOT information on this – I couldn’t find an aerial predating the resurfacing between Century and 98th.)

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        • ladotbikeblog
          ladotbikeblog says:

          It’s my understanding that the road diet and the bike lanes were in tandem policy-wise, but that they spread out in implementation due to differing schedules, time lines, and requirements. I’d be happy to dig a little deeper on it.

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          • Joe Linton
            Joe Linton says:

            You wrote “These bike lanes were installed in tandem with a measure designed to make Hoover safer for bicyclists: a road diet”

            The word you used is “installed”

            The road diet was installed in 2009. The bike lanes were installed in 2010.

            In English “in tandem” means two things were done together. You’ve used it to mean two things that were installed at least four months apart.

            I don’t think it has anything to do with “policy” – I think it’s just wrong as you’ve stated it.

          • ladotbikeblog
            ladotbikeblog says:

            My apologies for being less than clear, grammatically. Things can seem very different from within the bureaucracy than they do from the outside. I appreciate your point of view. It will help us to better articulate our message.

  2. maxutility
    maxutility says:

    Any chance of providing more detail on what the traffic statistics on this stretch of Hoover were before the road diet? If DOT is making the claim that the new configuration is an improvement as long as traffic conditions allow it, it would be very interesting to look around the city for other areas where traffic data reveals opportunities to further improve the roads. Can you post information on where traffic data can be found? I assume this is publicly available data since I can think of no valid reason it would be kept confidential by a public agency.

    Also, I don’t mean to be snarky. But can you explain who exactly DOT is “battling” with to get bike lanes installed? In the sentence “we aren’t going to give up on lanes that we already have”, who exactly does “we” refer to? I’m just interested to have a little insight into what debate is going on internally within the DOT on this issue. Of course, feel free to respond within the limits of appropriates given your position in the agency.

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